An old media-new media dust-up.
Month: June 2007
Analyzing The Polls
Charles Franklin: "Who lost the Iraq funding/veto fight? Both President and Congress."
The View From Your Window
Cape Town, South Africa, 8.45 am.
For an interactive gallery of Dish readers’ window views across the world, click here.
Verschärfte Vernehmung In Europe
The report by the the lead investigator for the Council of Europe, Dick Marty, into the secret interrogation and torture sites operated by the CIA these past few years makes for extremely grim reading. For decades, the KGB deployed the classic Gestapo techniques on prisoners; now, under the Bush administration, it is the United States that has adopted the same methods:
Ventilation holes in the cells released bursts of hot or freezing air, with temperature used as a form of extreme pressure to wear down prisoners, the investigators found. Prisoners were also subjected to water-boarding, a form of simulated drowning, and relentless blasts of music and sound, from rap to cackling laughter and screams, the report says.
The report, which runs more than 100 pages, says the prisons were operated exclusively by Americans in Poland and Romania from 2003 to 2006. It relies heavily on testimony from C.I.A. agents…
According to the report, suspects were often held for months with no contact except with masked, silent guards who would push meals of cheese, potatoes and bread through hatches.
The defense of the Verschaerfte Vernehmung (which are all war crimes under international law and were subject to the death penalty fifty years ago) is the Giuliani defense:
"Here’s my question. Was the guy a terrorist? ‘Cause if he’s a terrorist, then I figure he got what was coming to him."
Of course, there is no due process to determine who is or who is not a terrorist, and thereby subject to torture. Many detainees aren’t even captured by U.S. soldiers or agents. Only 19 percent of the captives in Gitmo, for example, were actually captured by U.S. forces. Americans’ system of justice has been outsourced to Pakistani bounty-hunters. And then the Gestapo-process takes over. But, hey, if they’re terrorists, they get what’s coming to them, no? That’s exactly the system of justice and warfare the Founders had in mind, isn’t it?
“Illegals”
A reader writes:
This vitriol with which conservatives demonize a variety of groups reminded me of a line from the movie "The Good Shepherd," which I saw recently. Joe Pesci’s mobster character asks Matt Damon’s CIA agent: "You know, we Italians have our families and the church, the Irish have the homeland, the Jews their tradition, the niggers their music. What do you guys have?" And Damon responds "We have the United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting." I think that sums up the conservative movement’s attitude towards our society.
“I am pro-life. He is not.”
Brownback slams Romney.
“The Right to Keep and Bear Alcohol”
Iain Murray explains part of the unwritten British constitution.
Face of the Day
A competitor plays a video game during the Major League Gaming Pro Circuit event June 8, 2007 at the Meadowlands Expo Center in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Over 2,500 pro and amateur gamers from across North America have converged onto the Meadowlands Expo Center to compete in the games Halo 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, and Gears of War. The gamers will compete over three days for up to $20,000 in prizes. By Spencer Platt/Getty Images.
Dissent of the Day
A reader writes:
I think you are being a snarky asshole about Paris Hilton – going to jail is a scary, disorienting, horrible experience. Sympathy and compassion and the right attitude, not mocking joviality – especially from a Catholic. This is actually a real person we are talking about.
From Hanoi To Paris
A reader writes:
The Nick Ut thing is amazing. And what’s more, Wikipedia tells me that the Pulitzer-winning photo of the Vietnamese girl was taken 35 years ago today.
First time: tragedy. Second time: farce.

