Let Them Die?, Ctd.

A reader writes:

I can certainly understand the logic behind letting GM, Ford, and Chrysler die. These three corporations have spent years denying reality, to the point of willful blindness. I tell my engineering students here at Ohio State that Rick Wagoner, the CEO of GM, should have been fired the morning after stating that GM’s customers "don’t worry about the price of gasoline". That sort of idiotic, arrogant thinking has directly resulted in the mess these companies are in. However, before we allow them to go down the tubes, I think we need to stop and think about what their demise will mean to Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.

Our states have already been devastated by the loss of manufacturing jobs, as everyone knows. But you should get out of DC and take a tour along the Great Lakes to actually see what’s happened. The great industrial cities – Cleveland, Youngstown, Akron, Toledo, Detroit – are essentially ghost towns already. If the US pulls the plug on the Big Three, it’s going to be a catastrophe for us here. Yes, Honda is very strong in Ohio, but Honda alone is not enough. We need to keep the auto industry afloat, somehow – but at the same time, we need to make absolutely sure that the morons in Detroit who created this mess are not rewarded in the same way the morons on Wall Street have been. Accountability has to start at the boardroom, not just at the union hall or on the factory floor. There’s certainly plenty of blame to go around (I worked as a tool and die maker at GM for eight years, so I know what it’s like in the plants) but for once, the people at the top need to pay for their boneheaded mistakes.

Another reader adds:

I have to disagree with you on letting GM, Ford and Chrysler die. True, the Detroit 3 aren’t what they used to be, but they still have a tremendous impact on the U.S. economy, and letting them go under would be the shortest, fastest road from recession to depression.

No one who understands the auto industry believes that a Chapter 11 restructuring is feasible for the automakers. As one leading auto analyst, Mary Ann Keller, notes: "In this world, you don’t go Chapter 11 reorganization. You go Chapter 7 liquidation.”

Mark Oline, an analyst with Fitch, says: "Strategic bankruptcy is not an option for GM. This is an issue of operating or not operating.”

What’s the economic impact if the Detroit 3 ceased operations now? A new study by the Center for Automotive Research estimates that 2.9 million U.S. jobs would be lost in the first year. It would reduce U.S. personal income by over $150 billion in the first year; $398 billion over the course of 3 years. The loss of state, local and federal taxes coupled with the increase in transfer payments (unemployment benefits, etc.) would cost government $60 billion in 2009, $54 billion in 2010, and $42 billion in 2011, for a total of about $156 billion over 3 years.

The impact on Michigan, Ohio, Indiana would be devastating – but the loss of jobs would also be felt in states not usually thought of as auto-manufacturing states, including Kansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Maryland, Virginia, Illinois, Texas, and New York – all of which have Detroit 3 manufacturing facilities. Also, keep in mind that there are independent auto parts manufacturing plants in virtually every state, and some 14,000 GM/Ford/Chrysler dealerships.

The ripple effect would be felt by small businesses, school districts, police and fire departments, and on and on.

This issue really touches a nerve with me. I live in Pleasant Ridge, Mich. (an old suburb of Detroit) and am the former communications director for the UAW. I know it’s easy to say, ‘They did it to themselves.’ – though not entirely accurate, in my opinion. But, that said, there’s no denying the severe widespread economic impact of "Letting them die." The cost to taxpayers of "letting them die" would be significantly greater than the short-term cost of helping the domestic auto industry survive the current economic crisis.

The Hewitt Strategy

Jason Zengerle posits:

When you think about Mitt Romney’s problems in ’08, it seemed as if the biggest one was his inability to convert the enthusiasm social conservative elites felt for him into enthusiasm for him among social conservatives at the grassroots level. If, over the next few years, the Mormon Church becomes the driving force behind the anti-gay marriage crusade, isn’t that likely to change opinions about the LDS among rank-and-file social conservatives? And wouldn’t that be a serious boost to Romney if, despite his friends’ claims to the contrary, he runs for the White House in ’12?

Quote For The Day

"I’d never seen anything like that ad. Putting pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden next to the picture of a man who left three limbs on the battlefield — it’s worse than disgraceful. It’s reprehensible," – Senator John McCain, on Saxby Chambliss’s 2002 campaign for the Senate.

McCain will be campaigning for Chambliss’s re-election run-off. And McCain is an honorable man.

How A New Media Star Is Born

Megan Garber speaks with Nate Silver:

One thing about media in general, and new media in particular, is that it’s not very linear—by which I mean it’s not that you go from one thousand hits in a day to two thousand—it’s, you know, from one thousand to ten thousand. And, likewise, there’s a parallel track in terms of interview requests and everything else. It kind of went viral, for lack of a better term, and all of the sudden, you’re really busy.

Dissent Of The Day

A reader writes:

Seriously, the election is over.  You’ve got three Palin posts in a row today.  I know she’s infuriating and I know she’s a dolt and I know that she is not a serious person and I know she doesn’t have any big ideas and I know she has a very interesting relationship with the truth, but until she is tomorrow’s news, she is yesterday’s news. There are bigger, more interesting, more life-affirming things to be focused on then the former Vice Presidential candidate from Alaska. Please, as a huge fan and a man very interested in most everything you post, please, for the love of God, breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth, and let Palin fall away until she makes some actual news.

“Even More Damaged Than Previously Understood”

Attention Palinites:

In the national Election Day exit poll, fully 60% of voters said they did not consider her qualified to serve as president if necessary, while only 38% thought she would be ready to step in. Those figures were daunting enough, but new calculations from the exit poll provided by the NBC News political unit show that outside of the Republican base skepticism about Palin’s credentials reached even more imposing heights. While 74% of Republicans thought Palin was qualified, just 35% of independents and 9% of Democrats agreed, the figures (first aired on David Gregory’s 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Monday night) showed.

Marc adds:

Wonder why Sarah Palin is everywhere? It’s not because she IS running in 2012. It’s because, in order for her to think about running, she has to change the way that non-Republicans see her. It’s a precondition.

Can she just go away now, please? Or answer our questions.