Hillary and Barack’s Tussle Over the Cuba Question [Steve Clemons]

US-Cuba relations are not high on the roster of priorities for many Americans, and yet small moves in the terms of that relationship could have enormous political consequences. Recently, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama did battle over what their policies would be towards Cuba if elected President.  That’s right — this was not a discussion of Israel/Palestine, or withdrawing from Iraq, or bombing Iran, or whether to talk to dictators without preconditions.  This was about Cuba. Chris Dodd started things off with an eloquent statement about US-Cuba relations released through my blog, The Washington Note as well as my perch at The Huffington Post.  Dodd set the gold standard in my view in articulating a policy that wasn’t all warm and fuzzy about Castro but that spoke to America’s 21st century economic and national security interests with Cuba in contrast to those who want to keep US-Cuba relations cocooned in an anachronistic Cold War era framework that has little relevancy today.  Dodd wants to end the many decades old embargo.  He wants to remove all travel restrictions — and he wants to see commerce and trade begin to flow.  He wants American people to meet Cubans and wants to trigger an arbitrage between the norms of our society and theirs.  That is the American way. That’s what we did with China. Now Hillary Clinton — who has visited China and who supports relations with Vietnam and who has praised Assistant Secretary of State Chris Hill and Under Secretary of State R. Nicholas Burns on what seems so far to be fairly successful nuclear deal-making with North Korea — has spoken out against change in America’s stance towards Cuba and in favor of George W. Bush’s position.

Clinton doesn’t support changing course in US-Cuba relations despite decades of failed results and seems to have no problem with something that Jeff Flake (R-AZ-6), the charismatic Republican Congressman from Arizona, does.  Flake has said:

If my travel which I think is my human right is going to be restricted, then it seems to me that a Communist government ought to be the one doing the restricting — not my own government of the United States of America.

Hillary Clinton has stated quite clearly that she is content to stick with past policies — those of President Bush — when it comes to Cuba. 

But Barack Obama has a completely different view.  While not quite up to the robustness of Chris Dodd’s proposal, Obama wrote an oped for the Miami Herald, "Our Main Goal:  Freedom in Cuba," calling for restrictions on family-related travel to end and increasing financial amounts that families could remit to loved ones inside Cuba. After he wrote the piece, Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chairman Joe Garcia — who is also the former Executive Director of the Jorge Mas Canosa-run Cuban-American National Foundation, organized a large gathering of Miami citizens, an overwhelming number of whom were Cuban Americans, to meet with Obama.  Most report that it was a super success.  There were some protests — but trivial compared to what one might have expected in Miami on this subject matter just a few years ago.

How could this be?  Hillary Clinton and those who want to keep US-Cuba relations in a cocooned, freeze-dried state have not looked at the recent polling data that show clearly that the Cuban-American voters in Florida are becoming divided over not only the family travel issue, but about the efficacy of the embargo itself.

Again to quote Republican Congressman Jeff Flake:

President Bush’s tightened restrictions on Cuban-American family travel is now forcing people to choose whether they are going to attend their father’s funeral or their mother’s.

Cuban-Americans from Miami have told me that the powerful triumvirate of Cuban-Americans from Miami — Ileana-Ros-Lehtinen, Lincoln Diaz-Balart, and Mario Diaz-Balart (the brothers are coincidentally the nephews by a failed marriage of their aunt to Fidel Castro) — are facing their most serious electoral challenges yet, as younger Cuban-Americans as well as older are shifting in their policy preferences when it comes to the Cuba travel ban and embargo.

Recently, I went to Havana along with former State Department Chief of Staff Lawrence Wilkerson. Wilkerson is a blunt guy — a military guy — and doesn’t suffer fools.  He was Colin Powell’s aide for sixteen years and served as his aide when Powell was Commander of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and also when Powell served as Secretary of the State.

Wilkerson has published two sets of "reflections" on Cuba and US-Cuba relations at the newly hatched, The Havana Note.  In the first, he starts with the admission that while Powell’s chief of staff, he gave an "off the record" interview to GQ Magazine in which he said that our "US-Cuba policy was the stupidest policy on earth." 

Wilkerson writes:

When I was Chief of Staff to the Secretary of State in 2004, I was exposed to some criticism within the Bush administration when I was quoted in GQ Magazine as saying that U.S. Cuba policy was the stupidest policy on earth. I deserved the criticism because my immediate boss, Colin Powell, had approved that policy. Not only that, he was co-chairman of the Committee set up to monitor implementation of it. Now I realize that I deserve far stronger criticism for not resigning my position in disgust over such policy. Let me tell you one of the most powerful reasons I feel that way.

There is a film by Lisandro Perez-Rey called "Those I Left Behind". The film documents the lives of several Cuban-American families against the backdrop of the Bush administration’s tightened rules on travel to Cuba. It is devastating in its condemnation of those rules. In the film, you see and hear from people whose lives are in turmoil because of these inane rules. You don’t need to understand how damaging the rules are to helping democracy come to Cuba. You don’t need to understand how dangerous the rules are with respect to U.S. national security. You don’t need to appreciate that Cuba is the only country in the world which U.S. citizens are prohibited to visit—a violation of their constitutional rights. And you don’t need to comprehend how much business America is losing because of the policies behind those rules—policies that have failed abjectly now for some 46 years. All you need to do is witness the devastation in the lives of these families to know that the rules must be changed and as swiftly as possible.

Central to the film is the testimony of an American citizen—an American soldier who has served in Iraq—who now finds it difficult if not impossible to visit his sons in Cuba. Sergeant Carlos Lazo, now somewhat famous for his advocacy for change, is shown talking to his two sons, Carlos Manuel and Carlos Raphael, who are in Cuba, via one of his many television appearances as he works for change. A resident of Seattle and a member of the Washington National Guard, Sergeant Lazo served as a combat medic in Iraq. Watching the scenes in the film of his sons in Cuba and the Sergeant in the United States, is wrenching. Particularly when Lazo talks of wanting to visit his sons prior to his departure for a year in Iraq—a year where he easily could have been wounded or killed—and then not being able to do so, you get the message he is trying to convey with a directness that is heartbreaking.

On another front, well before any of us had heard of Michael Moore’s Sicko, we became exposed to the new edge of Cuban power — soft power — in Latin America and elsewhere:  the training and export of doctors.  Say what you want about Castro, who has outlived an incredible number of US presidents and may be around a bit longer, but exporting doctors is wildly different than the export of guns and revolution, which was what Cuba was doing for decades.

Here is an intro to Wilkerson’s reflections of Cuba’s national health care and medicine infrastructure and the global public diplomacy that they connect to it:

With Steve Clemons and others, I recently visited Cuba (March 2007). One of the areas of Cuban activity on which we focused was what has been described as one of the world’s best systems for delivering healthcare to impoverished people—in Cuba, in Venezuela and elsewhere in South and Central America, and increasingly in sub-Saharan Africa. We visited Cuba’s medical "contingency brigade", for example, and talked with doctors and other healthcare personnel about the brigade’s recent, highly successful tenure in Pakistan following the devastating earthquakes there in 2006. The passion in the doctors’ eyes as they related their experiences in delivering basic healthcare in isolated, freezing regions of Pakistan was truly heartwarming. Some of the human interest stories the doctors related brought laughter to us all and served to demonstrate conclusively how deeply these medical personnel had been touched by their almost year-long experience in Pakistan. They were proud to announce that as a result of the good relations thus created, Cuba was asked to open its first-ever embassy in Islamabad. Talk about effective public diplomacy!

We also visited the Finlay Institute: Center for Research-Development and Production of Human Vaccines—incidentally, one of the places that the jacobin Undersecretary of State for International Security Affairs, John Bolton, alleged in 2002 was manufacturing biological weapons. We didn’t find any such activity (and we did discover that at best the Institute has a rudimentary Bio-Level III capability and no Bio-Level IV capability—the latter needed if one is to engage in sophisticated biological agent research and development). After the visit, we assumed that Bolton’s insights were right up there with the CIA’s in 2002-2003 with respect to Saddam Hussein’s mobile biological weapons labs. It’s safe to say we considered the assessment by the former commander of the U.S. Southern Command, Marine General Charles Wilhelm, as more definitive: "During my three year tenure, from September 1997 until September 2000 at Southern Command, I didn’t receive a single report or a single piece of evidence that would have led me to the conclusion that Cuba was in fact developing, producing or weaponizing biological or chemical agents."

Those interested in the realities of Cuba’s health care progress — and the many lessons we can learn — can skip the Michael Moore film and instead see Salud!

In foreign policy circles, most people consider me to be a "realist".  I consider myself a hybrid of a number of schools.  I don’t think that there are perfectly neat schools of thought any longer but whether I’m a 21st century evolved realist, an ethical realist, a progressive realist, or as Michael Lind would call me, a new American internationalist — when I see US-Cuba realities as a manifestation of our failure to move forward in ways consistent with global needs and American interests, then my realist DNA perks up.

Cuba and the Cuban population remember the fall of the Soviet Union and survived a devastating, tortuous shrinking of their economy (and their personal body weight).  After the Russians, Venezuela cuddled up to the Cubans and now they essentially barter doctors and medical support for oil between each other.  China is the second biggest economic partner of Cuba and has designs on developing the oil fields in Cuban waters estimated to be about 9-12 billion barrels.  Americans are not there — not involved.

Benetton has a store in old Havana.  British Petroleum — which controls the Alaskan pipeline — had a party on the roof of my hotel in Havana.  Israeli firms are managing large citrus groves there.  The Germans, Chinese, Australians, Canadians, Dutch, and Japanese are all visiting Havana and seeing the business opportunities.

But Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuiliani, Fred Thompson, and John McCain all want to keep the Bush administration’s restrictions on trade and travel in place.

Lifting the travel ban makes the United States a more whole nation — as travel is a natural right of ours, not to be taken away by our government.  This right should be restored to all Americans in my view.

But stepping away from the lofty for a moment, Hugo Chavez is not my favorite guy in Latin America. 

In my view, Chavez is a serious troublemaker made increasingly wealthy from high oil prices.  He is an increasingly significant constraint on America’s global options — and to knock him back a respectable bit would be a good thing.  Opening the travel pipe would steal from Chavez both the dependency and the affections of many Cubans and might send a very popular pro-American current through Cuba and much of Latin America.

More on this later — but Cuba does matter and is already a point of differentiation between Obama, Clinton, and Dodd.  Fidel will not be around long in my estimation, and we need our political and policy leaders to begin plotting a policy not riveted in the past and not dominated by a shrinking cartel in Miami. 

— Steve Clemons

What might have been [Jamie]

In today’s New York Times Book Review, Anthony Julius reviews Ruth Wisse’s new book, Jews and Power.

But it also has a certain delicacy, in particular in its openness to alternative histories, alternative political arrangements. “It is worth considering how the Middle East might have evolved had Arab rulers accepted the partition of Palestine,” she writes. There would have been some voluntary shifts of population. Arab Palestine might have federated with Jordan. Regional priorities would have dictated new patterns of trade, commerce and development. Jews and Arabs who wanted to live in the other’s land could have traveled back and forth.

Indeed, imagine how history might have changed had the Arab powers accepted the mere presence of a Jewish state in their midst. Devastating wars would have been averted, radical Islam would not have the appeal it currently does, economies would be on the rise. Why is the existence of Israel such a big deal, not just for the Arabs, but for gullible and guilt-ridden Westerners who insist that the Palestinian issue must be solved before any other Middle Eastern problem can be tackled?

The Decider Still Doesn’t Know Who Disbanded Iraq’s Military [Steve Clemons]

President Bush still does not know who actually controverted his policy on keeping Saddam’s military intact and instead disbanded it.  That’s an incredible admission — unbelievable! 

This from a revealing New York Times piece today on Bush biographer Robert Draper’s interviews with Bush (and in his forthcoming book Dead Certain:  The Presidency of George W. Bush):

Mr. Bush acknowledged one major failing of the early occupation of Iraq when he said of disbanding the Saddam Hussein-era military, “The policy was to keep the army intact; didn’t happen.”

But when Mr. Draper pointed out that Mr. Bush’s former Iraq administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, had gone ahead and forced the army’s dissolution and then asked Mr. Bush how he reacted to that, Mr. Bush said, “Yeah, I can’t remember, I’m sure I said, ‘This is the policy, what happened?’ ” But, he added, “Again, Hadley’s got notes on all of this stuff,” referring to Stephen J. Hadley, his national security adviser.

Those still in doubt about how Iraq’s military forces were disbanded and the incompetence and unaccountable idiocy that ran rampant during Bremer’s reign at the Coalition Provisional Authority, watch the dog fight between former senior CPA Office of Reconstruction special initiatives chief Paul Hughes and former Senior Advisor for National Defense in the Coalition Provisional Authority Walter Slocombe in the Sundance Special Jury Grand Prize winning No End in Sight. 

Hughes is the good guy in the film — and in the real life situation.  And Slocombe admits on film that he decided to disband the military — he just did it, without authorization from anyone.

And Bush still doesn’t get how this happened? or why?  And no one has paid a price. . .

— Steve Clemons

Double Standards [hilzoy]

Scott Lemieux is right: this is a good post about Larry Craig’s arrest:

"By the cop’s own admission, he (the cop) "pumped his foot slowly up and down in response." In other words, Craig asked for sex using an arcane code extremely unlikely to "alarm, anger, or disturb" — according to the the equally arcane code defining disorderly conduct in Minnesota — an uninitiated fellow-lavator, and the cop knew what it meant and said yes.

Where’s the victim? What I find more astonishing is the definition of "disorderly conduct." By this reckoning, ten years and thirty pounds ago, I had disorderly conduct foisted upon me approximately…let’s see…15,923 times. Per week. Give or take. But, even if they’re unwanted advances, that’s the natural order of things, right? Whereas men have to be protected from the unwanted advances of men at all costs (why? because they’re worried they just might succumb to a particularly persuasive piece of foot telegraphy?). Given the constant, daily harassment women endure (come on now, don’t tune out; stay with me, here) — harassment that makes us compress our daily activities into daylight hours, that circumscribes where we go, who we go with, and even what we wear; intrusive harassment, ruin-your-day, make-you-feel-powerless/angry/depressed harassment — the overzealous prosecution of the toe-tapper really pisses me off. It’s like those sophomore discussions one has of human trafficking, in which someone invariably says "but what about the men?", and then the rest of the discussion, in some form or another, is overwhelmingly preoccupied with those minority cases. Heaven forfend we don’t keep men front and center, even if it makes lousy Bayesians of us all. Look: if there’d been groping, a physical risk, or even just a persistent advance in the face of a single "no" (which doesn’t seem to have ever been uttered), I’d be supportive regardless of the gender base-rates involved. But "he tapped his foot and looked at me funny"? Please! Men! Grow a pair!"

Honestly: I loathe sexual harassment. Leaving aside the attempted rapes on the one hand and all the myriad gropings and propositions on the other, I have been stalked twice, asked by a professor (now dead) whose class I was enrolled in to spend the summer with him, had a pitcher of beer poured over my head for saying no, and so on and so forth. I even got a buzz cut once — 1/4" long hair, max — because some jerk grabbed my breasts, and when I pulled away he started screaming obscenities at me. I was writing a travel guide at the time, so going to restaurants and discos alone was part of my job, and since I couldn’t figure out how to obtain a nun’s habit, cutting all my hair off seemed like the best way to make the levels of sexual harassment drop to remotely bearable levels. (I’m not kidding. I did this. I figured that in the split second when I was walking past someone, he would be thinking: "what on earth is that?", rather than grabbing me. It worked. Plus, ever since I since I watched the original Star Trek, I had wondered what I would look like with no hair. Now I knew.) I only called the police once — see "attempted rape", above — and the charming officer who responded said, and I quote: "why don’t you just head down to the beach tomorrow in a nice bikini and see if he tries again?" And much as I loathed all the rest of the sexual harassment I’ve encountered, I don’t really see that most of it — the cases in which I was not touched, at least — should be illegal, as opposed to merely vile. If it were illegal, however, I would have thought that since women are far more likely to receive unwanted advances than men, the police should focus a bit more attention on protecting us.

And one more thing:

Here’s what Tucker Carlson said that he did when he was the victim of sexual harassment in a men’s room:

"CARLSON: I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the — you know, and grabbed him, and — and —

ABRAMS: And did what?

CARLSON: Hit him against the stall with his head, actually!"

Later he amended his story, omitting the part about hitting the man’s head against the stall. The first time he told it, however, he, Joe Scarborough, and Dan Abrams seemed to think it was pretty funny to hit the guy’s head against a bathroom stall, and he never said that he thought there would have been anything wrong with it.

Here are some of Tucker Carlson’s comments on sexual harassment when he was not the victim:

One:

"CARLSON:  So it‘s basically everything related to sex that we don‘t like is now sexually harassment—is now sexual harassment.  See, that‘s the problem I have with this category itself.  Is I think it‘s too amorphous."

Two:

"What‘s going on here, Max, is male supervisors are so completely paranoid about being accused of sexual harassment, that when a woman flirts with them, or in any way acts female, or appealing, or cheery, or effervescent, the man is terrified of seeming like he favoring her so he pays her less. (…)

If anything, we need a federal law to protect the rights of on-the-job flirters."

And on whether Congressional Democrats will be more fun than Republicans:

"CARLSON:  A lot more fun?  This is a group that made up the concept of sexual harassment.  You look great today.  Boom, I‘m charging you with a crime.  Do you know what I mean?  It‘s not a group I associate with fun."

Apparently, Tucker Carlson thinks that when a man grabs him, it’s appropriate to shove his head against a bathroom stall, but that when a man harasses a woman it’s just good clean fun. Why? Is it that same-sex sexual harassment is icky but heterosexual sexual harassment is fine? Or is it just that sexual harassment is OK as long as he’s not the victim?

Sovereignty: Unclear On The Concept [hilzoy]

President Bush, June 28, 2004:

"Earlier today, 15 months after the liberation of Iraq, and two days ahead of schedule, the world witnessed the arrival of a free and sovereign Iraqi government. Iraqi officials informed us that they are ready to assume power, and Prime Minister Allawi believes that making this transition now is best for his country. After decades of brutal rule by a terror regime, the Iraqi people have their country back."

Wikipedia:

"Sovereignty is the exclusive right to complete political (e.g. legislative, judicial, and/or executive) authority over an area of governance, people, or oneself."

New York Times, September 2, 2007:

"Mr. Bush and his commanders weighed whether to reward the Sunnis with early provincial elections, restoring a degree of political power to them. But calling elections is no longer within the power of the United States, and the Shiite-dominated national government of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki has long opposed empowering the Sunnis.

They also discussed ways to pressure Mr. Maliki’s government to provide millions of dollars in Iraqi funds — much of it oil money — to reconstruction of Anbar’s schools and health care centers and the reopening of state-run factories.

“This is all about finding ways to circumvent Maliki,” said one senior official who is involved in preparing Mr. Bush’s presentation of a new strategy, which will probably come in an address to the country after General Petraeus and the American ambassador to Iraq, Ryan C. Crocker, have presented their report to Congress starting on Sept. 10. “We can’t go to the Hill again and say Maliki will perform if we just give him the space. He won’t. So you find other means to accomplish the goal.”

But circumventing a central government that the United States itself set up is unlikely to prove easy."

They don’t even bother to pretend.

Two Larrys [Jamie]

Today, at the National and Lesbian Gay Journalists’ Association annual convention in San Diego, I had a chance to see the irascible legend Larry Kramer riff on gay politics in America. He delivered his usual points (but in his always entertaining fashion): that straight people hate gays, that gay people are complacent about their second-class status ("just don’t be so fucking passive!"), and attacked the gay rights movement in general and the Human Rights Campaign in particular for being weak and ill-managed. A friend remarked that Kramer has the proper diagnosis of, but not the best tactics for, gay America.

But Kramer has a trenchant and historically-informed perception of how gay people are portrayed in the mainstream media, and he’s willing to call out people and institutions, friend or foe, for their irresponsibility and unfair treatment. Kramer mentioned an Iowa judge’s decision Thursday to overturn a state law banning gay marriage, a story that appeared on page A9 of Saturday’s New York Times and A18 of Friday’s Times; and hardly at all on television news. Meanwhile, the Larry Craig drama has been on the front page of the Times for several days this week and non-stop on CNN and Fox. No one can accuse the Times of having an anti-gay bias, but it’s nevertheless reflective of the paper of record’s poor news judgment to prioritize the sexual peccadilloes of a particular U.S. Senator over a major gay civil rights victory in a mid-western state.

What maketh a neo-con? [Jamie]

There’s been a lot of discussion on the blog about the use–and abuse–of the label "neo-con." Which has got me thinking–what is it that causes people to label others this way? And why is it that people who would never consider themselves neo-conservatives are labeled as such?

Today, it seems that a "neo-con" (at least in the fevered imaginations of the net-left) is someone who frequently calls attention to the unprovoked aggression of despotic regimes (e.g. Iran and Syria), the violation of human rights in other countries, and advocates the moral superiority of democratic countries in international affairs. A "neo-con" is now anyone who dares make an issue out of the aggressions and inhumanity of despotisms without explaining them away, and for advocating America do something about these aggressions and inhumanities. It is for this reason that so many on the left attacked Bayard Rustin in the 1970’s and 1980’s when, in addition to speaking out about racial injustices in the United States and condemning Reaganomics, he also spoke out, vociferously, against the PLO, Robert Mugabe, and the Sandinistas. But Rustin was hardly a proper neo-conservative, even if he happened to write the occasional article for Commentary and helped found the Coalition for a Democratic Majority. And so, simply for stating uncomfortable realities about the world, someone is called a "neocon" (which in today’s political discourse–not just left-wing discourse–is akin to labeling someone a "pinko" in the 1950’s) and readily dismissed.

It seems that, in both the right and left blogospheres those who do not toe the party line are attacked and called names: Liberals are traitors and conservatives are warmongers. "Neo-con" has become the de facto curse word in the left-wing blogosphere, applied to anyone who dares oppose the dictates of Chairman Kos (do his followers realize the cruel irony of calling themselves "Kossacks?")

While I write frequently about despotic regimes, their threat to America, and criticize the United Nations for being, what Daniel Patrick Moynihan referred to as, "A Dangerous Place," the neocons–at least the ones at the American Enterprise Institute–will probably be really surprised to hear Steve claim that "Jamie has been providing a ‘sideways defense’ for the neocons," considering this. Needless to say, not everyone who advocates for an internationalist, engaged, muscular foreign policy is a "neo-conservative."

Labor and Iraq [Jamie]

My colleague Brad Plumer calls me out for stating that, "Whereas once the AFL-CIO had a large and effective international office, you’d be hard-pressed to hear, for instance, what they’re doing for Iraqi trade-unionists." He’s right that I give short shrift to the AFL-CIO’s international support for trade unionists, particularly in Iraq, and I apologize for and regret the oversight. And he’s absolutely right about the Bush administration’s moronic spurning of Iraqi trade unions, "which were one of the few dedicated anti-insurgent, anti-Baathist organizations in the country."

But I still stand by my larger point, which is that whereas anti-totalitarianism used to be the animating ideology of the AFL-CIO and Cold War liberals (both domestically–when the AFL fought tooth and nail against entryist communists, and internationally, in support for higher defense budgets and beating–not living with–the Soviet Union), the AFL has now become part of the anti-war faction of the Democratic Party, calling for immediate withdrawal, and abandoning Iraqi trade unionists to their fates.

For an example of what position American labor might take on the war, they ought to look across the pond to their British comrades, particularly Labour Friends of Iraq, a group composed of Labour MPs which supported the invasion of Iraq on humanitarian grounds and that opposes a coalition withdrawal:

History will not forgive us if we fail to give solidarity to Grassroots Iraq as its long-suffering people seek a federal, democratic, pluralist, and unified Iraq, in which there is full respect for the political and human rights of all.

The group’s director, Gary Kent, wrote yesterday in Progress, a publication affiliated with the Labour Party:

Why can’t more progressives start seeing who are its real enemies and friends in Iraq? Instead, some seem stuck in a time-warp circa February 2003 when millions marched to prevent the invasion of Iraq. The war easily toppled Saddam which most Iraqis welcomed but the American military proceeded to start losing the peace with great stupidity.

One of the most important gains has been the renaissance of a new civil society after decades of fascist-type rule. Labour Friends of Iraq (LFIQ) concentrates its efforts on supporting the Iraqi trade union movement.

…It’s perfectly understandable that those who opposed the invasion maintain the integrity of their arguments. It’s quite another to effectively adopt an "I told you so" stance and sit on one’s hands at the expense of the workers’ movement, women’s organisations and elected Iraqi parliamentarians and parties.

It’s obscene for a minority to back insurgents who murder union leaders and would destroy civil society.With or without foreign troops, a surge of solidarity with the unions and others is needed. It’s the very least one would expect from progressive internationalism.

More Ouch! [hilzoy]

A few points in response to Jamie’s last post, which I will put below the fold so as not to distract from more substantive posts.

First, I don’t know how Jamie is using the term ‘totalitarian’, but I meant it in its usual sense: “Of, relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed.” We can debate how closely al Qaeda’s goals fit this definition: whether, for instance, an organization that rejects all man-made political structures could be described as one in which a political authority exercises absolute control over all aspects of life; whether the Sunni Islamic authorities who would presumably have a fair amount of power in al Qaeda’s dream caliphate are normally unified enough to exercise totalitarian control, and so forth.

But al Qaeda does not pose a threat to us because its dream caliphate is a realistic possibility. It threatens us because it is a terrorist group. Moreover, its nearer-term political goals — e.g., eliminating any American presence from Saudi Arabia, toppling various governments in the Muslim world — are much more developed than its positive vision of the caliphate with which it wants to replace them. The caliphate would clearly be a theocracy of some kind; whether or not it would be a totalitarian government is, I think, not at all clear. But to emphasize this goal, given both the unlikelihood that it will ever be achieved and its underdeveloped character relative to the rest of al Qaeda’s goals is like describing Lenin’s Communist Party as an anarchist rather than a totalitarian organization on the grounds that it held that the state would eventually wither away.

Second, I do not deny that Iran and Syria support terror, or that they, especially Iran, have helped factions within Iran. I do deny that they have “effectively declared war on us”, which was Jamie’s original claim. There is a difference.

Third, Jamie objects to my claim that al Qaeda’s natural allies are failed states. (Though I don’t know what he means when he says that “claiming that al Qaeda is “allied” with them is a bit like saying it’s “allied” with the equator.” Even leaving aside the fact that I did not say that al Qaeda was allied with “failed states” in general, but that failed states were its natural allies, the analogy escapes me.) The two states with which al Qaeda has been most closely allied were Somalia and Afghanistan. Both were failed or failing states. I do not believe that this is a coincidence: a stronger state would be likely to resist allying itself with an organization as destructive, unpredictable, and likely to cause problems as al Qaeda.

Fourth, because I used the phrase “the risk of further destabilization in the Middle East and Pakistan”, Jamie writes that “For Hilzoy, as for many on the left, there’s no agency, no ideology, no actor behind this destabilization, except, of course, America, George W. Bush, and the criminal neocon cabal.” Jamie is free to entertain this fantasy vision of what the left thinks, but if he wants to attribute this view to me, he should provide some evidence other than the construction of a single sentence. For the record, I have neither said nor thought that no one other than Bush is responsible for the destabilization of the Middle East, nor have I been particularly shy about criticizing other agents.

Fifth, Jamie seems to think that when I asked him what his conception of journalism was, I was bothered by the fact that I disagree with him. This is not true. I was bothered, as I said, by the fact that he made a serious accusation, and then wrote, the next day, that he wasn’t sure whether what he wrote was true or not, but was simply trying to be provocative. I would have been just as baffled had he written something I thought was true but that he himself did not believe, just to be provocative, especially if, in writing it, he had apparently not bothered to check and see whether it was true or not.

I was trying to understand how someone could write an article defining and describing “The Obama Doctrine”, and then go on to write: “I’m not really sure if there is an Obama Doctrine, but was hoping to be provocative and stir some debate. That is why I asked:

“Jamie, how do you conceive of your role as a journalist and blogger? What responsibilities do you think it involves? And how has your view of those responsibilities informed the posts I’ve mentioned above?”

In asking that question, I was not impugning Jamie’s motives, but questioning his conception of what being a journalist or a blogger involves. There is a difference. I supposed that Jamie was trying to do what a journalist or a blogger is supposed to do, and I wondered what he took that to involve. I might instead have impugned his motives: for instance, I might have said that he intentionally misrepresented the truth for some purpose of his own, or, perhaps, that he tried to provoke rather than inform in order to subvert the norms of journalism from within. I might have impugned his journalistic competence: for instance, by supposing that he was trying to state the truth accurately, but did not understand that to state the truth about a candidate’s views, one normally needs to consider more than one snippet of one interview. Or I might have impugned his linguistic competence: for instance, by supposing that he did not understand that “I’m not really sure whether X is true” is inconsistent with “I believe X for good reasons.”

Any of these options would, I thought, have been less charitable than the one I chose. Moreover, while I do not know Jamie, and thus am in no position to judge, I do not suppose that any of them is true. That is why I did not impugn either his motives or his competence, but asked what his conception of journalism and blogging was, and how it was consistent with what he wrote. Likewise, it would have been less charitable to leap to conclusions about what that conception was. That is why I asked him, rather than assuming that I knew the answer. If there is a good answer to that question, I am eager to hear it. If there isn’t, then it is that fact, not any statement of mine, that Jamie should worry about.