The Undiplomatic Michael Oren, Ctd

Goldblog responds:

[W]hile the world has an obligation to understand Israel and its motivations (or, at least, an abiding interest in gaining such an understanding) Israel has an interest in understanding why the world might see some of its actions as excessive. I'm not referring here to Israel's reaction to the Goldstone report, which was a pre-cooked travesty, but to more legitimate criticism about its settlements and its actions in Gaza. I'm not arguing that Israel must agree with every criticism, but I am arguing that not every single criticism of Israel is motivated by a desire to exterminate the Jewish state.

Peace Prize Reax II

Ronald Krebs:

The Nobel Peace Prize's aims are expressly political. The Nobel committee seeks to change the world through the prize's very conferral, and, unlike its fellow prizes, the peace prize goes well beyond recognizing past accomplishments. As Francis Sejersted, the chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee in the 1990s, once proudly admitted, "The prize … is not only for past achievement. … The committee also takes the possible positive effects of its choices into account [because] … Nobel wanted the prize to have political effects. Awarding a peace prize is, to put it bluntly, a political act."

George Packer:

President Obama should thank the Nobel committee and ask them to hold on to the Peace Prize for a couple more years…This seems like a prize for Europeans, not Americans, and I worry that at home it will damage him politically by reinforcing the notion that he is—and will be—a world icon rather than a successful President. I don’t mind him being the former, but I most want him to be the latter. Not even a Rookie of the Year is ready to be elected to the Hall of Fame. I’m afraid this prize will be bad for Obama. For political reasons and on the merits, he should quote Shakespeare to the Nobel committee: “As you shall prove me, praise me.”

Mickey Kaus:

Turn it down! Politely decline. Say he’s honored but he hasn’t had the time yet to accomplish what he wants to accomplish. Result: He gets at least the same amount of glory–and helps solve his narcissism problem and his Fred Armisen (’What’s he done?’) problem, demonstrating that he’s uncomfortable with his reputation as a man overcelebrated for his potential long before he’s started to realize it.

Spencer Ackerman:

[T]urning it down would be a slap in the face to an international community that is showing, in the most generous way possible, that it wants the U.S. back as a leading component of the global order. The issue is not Barack Obama. It’s what the president represents internationally: a symbol of an America that is willing, once again, to drive the international system forward, together, toward the humane positive-sum goals of peace and disarmament. The fact that Obama hasn’t gotten the planet there misses the point entirely. It’s that he’s beginning, slowly, to take the world again down the path.

David Frum:

From the age of 20, Barack Obama has collected acclaim, awards and prizes not for his accomplishments (which have always been rather scanty), but for his potential. You think with the guy nearing 50 and elected president of the United States that the prizes for “most promising young man” would cease. But no! The Nobel Committee has just awarded him one more.

The Taliban:

We have seen no change in his strategy for peace. He has done nothing for peace in Afghanistan.

Josh Marshall:

This is an odd award. You'd expect it to come later in Obama's presidency and tied to some particular event or accomplishment. But the unmistakable message of the award is one of the consequences of a period in which the most powerful country in the world, the 'hyper-power' as the French have it, became the focus of destabilization and in real if limited ways lawlessness. A harsh judgment, yes. But a dark period. And Obama has begun, if fitfully and very imperfectly to many of his supporters, to steer the ship of state in a different direction. If that seems like a meager accomplishment to many of the usual Washington types it's a profound reflection of their own enablement of the Bush era and how compromised they are by it, how much they perpetuated the belief that it was 'normal history' rather than dark aberration.

Jake Tapper:

Apparently the standards are more exacting for an ASU honorary degree these days.

Rod Dreher:

The Nobel committee has awarded Obama its Peace prize for the grand achievement of not being George W. Bush. I don't see any other way to explain this decision. Again, it doesn't reflect poorly on Obama, but rather on the Nobel committee, which looks petty and political. On the other hand, none of us are George W. Bush either, so maybe we can dare to dream that the Norwegians will gift us with the Nobel Peace prize next year. Personally, I would use the prize money to foster understanding between peoples, and to buy silken slankets for the whole family.

Glenn Greenwald:

We're currently occupying and waging wars in two separate Muslim countries and making clear we reserve the "right" to attack a third.  Someone who made meaningful changes to those realities would truly be a man of peace.  It's unreasonable to expect that Obama would magically transform all of this in nine months, and he certainly hasn't.  Instead, he presides over it and is continuing much of it.  One can reasonably debate how much blame he merits for all of that, but there are simply no meaningful "peace" accomplishment in his record — at least not yet — and there's plenty of the opposite.  That's what makes this Prize so painfully and self-evidently ludicrous.      

Jim Henley:

I like to think that all people of good will, no matter our opinions on health-insurance reform, a second stimulus or cap-and-trade legislation, can agree that awarding the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama is one of the bigger fucking absurd fucking travesties of a low fucking dishonest fucking decade.

Marc Lynch:

Based on conversations in Amman there's not going to be much Arab enthusiasm for Obama peace prize.

Sully Obama Peace Prize Reax

Sorry, I was up till 2 finishing my column.

If any person has done more to advance some measure of calm, reason and peace in this troubled word lately, it's president Obama. I think the Cairo speech and the Wright speech alone merited this both bridging ancient rifts even while they remain, of course, deep and intractable. He has already done more to heal the open wound between the West and Islam than anyone else on the planet.

I'd just add one caveat: the American people who elected him deserve part of the credit too. Now he needs partners to help him.

Peace Prize Reax I

AllahPundit:

Am I awake?

TigerHawk:

“YO OBAMA, I’M GONNA LET YOU FINISH, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING JR WAS THE BEST NOBEL PRIZE WINNER OF ALL TIME.”

Dan Riehl:

Are you frickin' kidding me?

Steve Benen:

I didn't even know he'd been nominated.

Case3L:

He was the 10th caller.

Alex Massie:

The Nobel Peace Prize Jumps the Shark

A reader writes:

Andrew! Wake Up! Wake up wake up wake up!

Crooked Timber:

Peace, dude

James Fallows:

Yes, that Olympic rejection really makes Obama look weak…

The Corner:

1994: Yasser Arafat

Conservatives4Palin:

this is complete lunacy

Robert Gibbs:

Wow.

Changing Minds Or Selling Books?

Charles Murray on winning converts:

[W]hat if I had entitled Losing Ground something like Liberal Cruelty? It probably would have sold a lot more than the meager 27,000 copies it actually sold on release. Would the book have had as much impact? That's the koan. I'm sure Jonah can give me examples of people who did pick up Liberal Fascism even though they hated the title, but I'll still bet he lost a lot of people who would have been Adeeply affected by his argument if they had read the book. We are indeed engaged in a battle for America's soul, but the way that battle is conducted makes a big difference.

The goal–at least my goal, but I think it is Steve's and Jonah's as well–is not to elect a Republican majority to Congress. That's not our job, and it's not as if Republican congresses were so wonderful anyway. Our job is to engage in a debate on great issues and make converts to our point of view. The key word is converts–referring to people who didn't start out agreeing with us. We shouldn't be civil and reasonable just because we want to be nice guys. It is the only option we've got if we want to succeed instead of just posture. The Glenn Becks of the world posture, and make our work harder.

(Hat tip: Dreher)

Malkin Award Nominee

"But, in fact every, when I was sworn into the Marine Corp, I was sworn to uphold the Constitution against every enemy, foreign and domestic. We’ve got a lot of domestic enemies of the Constitution (applause) and one of those sits in the speaker’s chair of the United States Congress, Nancy Pelosi," – Congressman Paul Broun (R-GA).

Playing Defense

Jim Burroway watches a new Protect Maine Equality ad responding to an anti-equality ad and leaves discouraged:

It’s a good ad, but I’ve got to be honest. I’m worried about the direction this campaign is going. No good general would ever dream of allowing his enemy to choose the terrain of battle, but that is exactly what the Protect Maine Equality is doing. Frank Schubert, the campaign manager behind Maine’s Yes on 1 is still calling the shots, and the “No” side is dancing to his tune.

The Daily Wrap

Today on the Dish we received the underwhelming news of a gay ambassadorship, compelling Andrew to make a plea to the president's people. He also took a long look at the controversial Oren piece, with reader follow-ups here, here, and here.

In other news, we heard that the first Iranian protest leader could be executed and that our captured soldier in Afghanistan is still missing. Juan Cole offered an interesting take on Iran's intentions. Andrew parsed the latest polling on healthcare while Patrick rounded up some initial reaction to the opt-out option.  Jonah Lehrer dropped some science on the failure of menu labeling while Ezra dropped his head.

In random happenings, Bob Dole chastised the GOP, Gail Collins told Rangel to go, Matt Welch defended Breitbart, Goldblog stood up against fat jokes, would-be gay-bashers got bashed themselves, O'Reilly saw starbursts, and TNC spun some wisdom.  And this was the best thing on the Internet today.

And last but not least, it appears the world will get to see Levi's Johnston after all.

— C.B.