Neuhaus Loses It – Again

The theocon-in-shief defends hypocrisy, and slimes gayness as somehow synonymous with the failings of people like Haggard and Foley. He also speaks about the nuances of a conflicted self. Hmmm. Then there’s this:

Somewhere between 2 and 4 percent of American males identify themselves as gay. (The figure is much lower for women.) Most of them are congregated in cities, and in those parts of cities known to be gay-friendly. Chelsea and the West Village, along with the Castro district of San Francisco and counterparts in other larger cities, are not America. Gays live in such places precisely because they are not America. 

Not America? So where are these places exactly? Commonweal’s blog comments:

The Castro district is ‘not America?’ I wonder if Fr. Neuhaus has ever read any of Richard Rodriguez‚Äôs reflections on the role of Holy Redeemer parish in the Castro, where many parishioners followed the call of Christ in ministering to the sick and dying during the AIDS crisis of the 1980s. Those parishioners continue to do that even today while they also find ways to support those suffering from AIDS in Africa. Not America? I would say this is America at its finest.

Does Fr. Neuhaus seriously believe that the Mark Foleys and Ted Haggards of the world are representative of the gay community? He should come and live out here in the Bay Area for a while. At least in my office, the gay and lesbian staff seem as caught up in suburban domesticity as their straight counterparts. There are pictures of loved ones — including children — on desks and our water cooler conversation revolves around similar struggles to balance work and family obligations.

This is not about whether those called to teach in the name of the Church should teach the fullness of the Church’s teaching on human sexuality. I would hold that they have an obligation to do so. But when we talk of gays living in places that are ‘not America’ or suggest Americans are right to see being gay, in and of itself, as ‘morally repugnant,’ then we have moved from condemning acts to condemning persons. This the Church does not teach.

But how much Neuhaus hopes the church would teach such hatred. And how hard he has tried to make it so.

Rove Kept Believing

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He was in his own cocoon with respect to the election. It wasn’t a game face. They had no idea what was coming. Meanwhile, a reader contrasts the seclusion and fundamentalist psyche of the Bush cabal with another war-president:

Abraham Lincoln was described as possessing a mind that was remarkably free from illusions, self-generated or otherwise. His Assistant Secretry of War, Charles Dana, described Lincoln like this:

"He had no freakish notions that things were so, or might be so, when they were not so. All his thinking and reasoning, all his mind, in short, was based continually upon actual facts, and upon facts of which, as I said, he saw the essence."

Here’s hoping we find someone soon with the same instincts. Joe Klein thinks we already have.

(Photo: Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty.)

Pater Et Filius

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A reader sees an analogy to the tortured relationship between Bush father and son I describe in this column:

With all the talk of the Bush family drama, I’m reminded of the exchange between Commodus and Marcus Aurelius in the movie Gladiator:

Commodus: You wrote to me once, listing the four chief virtues. Wisdom, Justice, Fortitude and Temperance. As I read the list, I knew I had none of them. But I have other virtues, father. Ambition, that can be a virtue when it drives us to excel. Resourcefulness. Courage. Perhaps not on the battlefield, but there are many forms of courage. Devotion, to my family, to you. But none of my virtues were on your list. Even then, it was as if you didn’t want me for your son.

Marcus Aurelius: Oh, Commodus, you go too far.

Commodus: I searched the faces of the gods for ways to please you, to make you proud. One kind word, one full hug while you pressed me to your chest and held me tight, would’ve been like the sun on my heart for a thousand years. What is in me that you hate so much?

Marcus Aurelius: Shh, Commodus.

Commodus: All I’ve ever wanted was to live up to you. Caesar. Father.

After that, in the movie, Commodus kills Marcus Aurelius. In real life, mercifully, W just calls up James Baker.

Quotes for the Day

"Evil is rarely defeated by people who are unsure they are right," – Jonah Goldberg, on conservatism of doubt.

"‚ÄòTo realise the relative validity of one‚Äôs convictions‚Äô, said an admirable writer of our time, ‚Äòand yet stand for them unflinchingly is what distinguishes a civilized man from a barbarian.‚Äô" – Isaiah Berlin, "Two Concepts of Liberty."

Burke And Torture, Ctd.

A reader writes:

Regarding your recent post on Burke and torture, perhaps an elaboration is due. Nothing that Burke says in that passage would not receive equal acknowledgement from an Burke_9 American who thinks that torture is necessary (although it would obviously be futile for them to try to express this in words as eloquent as Burke’s).

Key quote:

"I acknowledge indeed, the necessity of such a proceeding in such institutions; but I must have a very mean opinion of institutions where such proceedings are necessary."

So he has a mean opinion but he thinks they are necessary nonetheless.

Burke well understood the relationship between justice and necessity. He, like Hume, acknowledged that justice may need to be put aside in times of necessity:

"And were a civilized nation engaged with barbarians, who observed no rules even of war, the former must also suspend their observance of them, where they no longer serve to any purpose; and must render every action or recounter as bloody and pernicious as possible to the first aggressors. Thus, the rules of equity or justice depend entirely on the particular state and condition in which men are placed, and owe their origin and existence to that utility, which results to the public from their strict and regular observance."

I’d say that Burke absolutely saw the need for torture in police states. But he despised both police states and the practice of torture. As for the quote from "Enquiry Concerning Principles of Morals," the key phrase here is, to my mind:

"where they no longer serve to any purpose"

My own view is that there is still a critical purpose to retaining the moral high-ground in a long war with religious terrorism. It comes from the recognition that we are fighting a generational battle of ideas for the moderate Muslim and Arab world. We are trying to show the benefits of free and democratic societies. But by mirroring the ethics of the enemy, by practising torture, we allow them to claim their moral equivalence as a matter of degree rather than of kind. And so we lose in the long run. We weaken our alliances across the world. We get poor intelligence. And, by authorizing torture as a regular part of the government’s activities, in a war that is defined as endless, we are in danger of permanently becoming the very police state Burke despised.

An emergency tactic for a short period of time out of actual necessity is different than institutionalized torture policies, designed to continue indefinitely, against an unnamed enemy whose threat is inherently nebulous. The latter, alas, is what this president initiated.

Email of the Day

A reader writes:

I just followed the link to see the conversation between you and Governor McGreevey. What a fascinating conversation. I loved the dialogue about growing up gay and the role of spirituality. It is so interesting how those of us who grew up Catholic and gay encountered the same experiences and the same struggles as we attempted to integrate our faith with the emerging truth that we were different, horribly different. In my own life that took me to the priesthood, the perfect camouflage. I recently left, unable to take the hypocrisy of the institution and unable to live in the dysfunction any longer and wanting to be free as a gay man to live a life of integrity.

Both your work and that of Governor McGreevery have moved me so much, bringing me down memory lane (I grew up in Northern Ireland) and touching sweet moments as well as bringing up tearful wounds.  Most of all it reminded me of this journey of grace we are all on and the hope we are called to.

Fundamentalists vs Conservatives

A reader writes:

If anyone asks for the difference between a conservative and a fundamentalist, please use this:

A conservative writes the traffic law so you may turn right on red.

A fundamentalist is the driver behind you, honking his/her horn to make you turn right on red.

With corner cops down the street if you choose wrong.